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:I change that when i get the english version nyrrti is working on atm --[[User:Tiramon|Tiramon]] 15:51, 6 January 2010 (CET) | :I change that when i get the english version nyrrti is working on atm --[[User:Tiramon|Tiramon]] 15:51, 6 January 2010 (CET) | ||
+ | ::I've created a temporary version...now we're waiting for the original by nyrrti --[[User:Galak|<font face="Papyrus" color="#CC0000"><b>Galak</b></font>]] [[User talk:Galak|<sup><font color="black" face="Viner Hand ITC"><b>cry here</b></font></sup>]] 17:18, 6 February 2010 (CET) | ||
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Hi, folks. | Hi, folks. | ||
− | Just my two cents on the problem of translation. I just had a look at [[Help:Tutorial]] and almost lost it. That text was not understandable at all for | + | Just my two cents on the problem of translation. I just had a look at [[Help:Tutorial]] and almost lost it. That text was not understandable at all for English speakers, full of literally translated German idioms and syntactic structures. If you rely on the average pupil for translating all your content into English (I haven't had a look into your English game version yet. I just hope that has been done more thoroughly!) you will probably scare away more people from non-German speaking areas than you can attract with your new game edition. Get a professional translation, or at least carefully select helpers with decent language skills for the initial translations. --[[Special:Contributions/188.92.232.163|188.92.232.163]] 17:10, 11 January 2010 (CET) |
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+ | :To have the talk page link's label changed to "discussion" to make it fit the German counter part may also create more confusion than it prevents, esp. since the namespaces are still called "talk". --[[Special:Contributions/134.96.164.183|134.96.164.183]] 12:25, 13 January 2010 (CET) | ||
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+ | ::With the namesspaces you are right, i will change that. On the other hand the translations of the wiki texts are mostly done by german player and i don't think we have alot of native english speakers here by now. But you are welcome to fix texts. This does not has to be a 1:1 translation. It should be understable and as complete as possible. So feel free and help if you can ;) --[[User:Tiramon|Tiramon]] 17:43, 13 January 2010 (CET) | ||
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+ | ::just recognized this discussion/talk thing is a mediawiki default setting .. it can also be found at [[wikipedia:Talk:Main_Page|wikipedia]] --[[User:Tiramon|Tiramon]] 17:45, 13 January 2010 (CET) | ||
+ | :::I'm not a native speaker of English. My fear was that you won't attract any native speakers with this project, if translation quality stays as low as it is now. A clear start with an empty wiki, would probably be much more attractive to people playing English FW than the badly translated German content. Provided that the game is translated properly of course. --[[Special:Contributions/188.92.232.163|188.92.232.163]] 21:40, 14 January 2010 (CET) | ||
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+ | == old stagers == | ||
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+ | I have seen that on the Main Page the article to the Link "old Stagers" does not exist... | ||
+ | but in my talk i have seen in the welcome message that it is already existent, linked with '''Category:Constant_Authors''' | ||
+ | i think this should be changed as soon as possible | ||
+ | --[[User:Karill Endusa|Karill Endusa]] 17:40, 17 June 2010 (CEST) | ||
+ | :{{done}} the link wasn't translated --[[User:Galak|<font face="Papyrus" color="#CC0000"><b>Galak</b></font>]] [[User talk:Galak|<sup><font color="black" face="Viner Hand ITC"><b>cry here</b></font></sup>]] 23:26, 17 June 2010 (CEST) | ||
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+ | == Delusions of Grandeur .. == | ||
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+ | Hello ev´ryone, | ||
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+ | I´ve just had the pleasure to <s>fix DEnglisch</s> completely re-create [[Project:Guidelines]]. | ||
+ | Thus I have to ask y´all the question: | ||
+ | Does it really make sense to aim for the skies, trying to C&P everything from our [http://fwwiki.de german counterpart], while not having enough manpower to translate everything? | ||
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+ | Simply put, I would say: No. | ||
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+ | This Wiki, as of now, is a complete catastrophe. There is so much work to be done, that I cannot even possibly say where to start, let alone estimate how long it´ll take to finish everything neatly. | ||
+ | As of now, this wannabe-system is rather scaring away newcomers, so, additionally, we´re stuck in a vicious cycle, as we cannot possibly expect any reinforcements, unless we directly recruit them from somewhere, where people know that this thing´s a catastrophe, yet will try to improve it nonetheless. | ||
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+ | TL;DR. Anyone who is still in here and working (even if only rarely), please, report in. Thanks. [http://www.fwwiki.org/index.php/Special:Contributions/ForTheLichKing! http://starbattlewiki.uk.to/misc/FTLK_A_small.png] • [[User:ForTheLichKing!|FTLK]], [[User Talk:ForTheLichKing!|umadbro?]] 11:30, 21 January 2012 (CET) |
Latest revision as of 02:24, 7 February 2012
It is nice to see, that the Wiki is growing and growing. Thanks to all who work on the database :) -- Crown 16:21, 5 January 2010 (CET)
"Welten"- Maybe "Worlds" ?! --Raketenfred 11:01, 6 January 2010 (CET)
- fixed --Tiramon 13:20, 6 January 2010 (CET)
Bild:Freewar.jpg should be changed into File:Freewar.jpg (above the welcome text) --Burning eagle 15:35, 6 January 2010 (CET)
- I change that when i get the english version nyrrti is working on atm --Tiramon 15:51, 6 January 2010 (CET)
Language and translating content[edit]
Hi, folks.
Just my two cents on the problem of translation. I just had a look at Help:Tutorial and almost lost it. That text was not understandable at all for English speakers, full of literally translated German idioms and syntactic structures. If you rely on the average pupil for translating all your content into English (I haven't had a look into your English game version yet. I just hope that has been done more thoroughly!) you will probably scare away more people from non-German speaking areas than you can attract with your new game edition. Get a professional translation, or at least carefully select helpers with decent language skills for the initial translations. --188.92.232.163 17:10, 11 January 2010 (CET)
- To have the talk page link's label changed to "discussion" to make it fit the German counter part may also create more confusion than it prevents, esp. since the namespaces are still called "talk". --134.96.164.183 12:25, 13 January 2010 (CET)
- With the namesspaces you are right, i will change that. On the other hand the translations of the wiki texts are mostly done by german player and i don't think we have alot of native english speakers here by now. But you are welcome to fix texts. This does not has to be a 1:1 translation. It should be understable and as complete as possible. So feel free and help if you can ;) --Tiramon 17:43, 13 January 2010 (CET)
- just recognized this discussion/talk thing is a mediawiki default setting .. it can also be found at wikipedia --Tiramon 17:45, 13 January 2010 (CET)
- I'm not a native speaker of English. My fear was that you won't attract any native speakers with this project, if translation quality stays as low as it is now. A clear start with an empty wiki, would probably be much more attractive to people playing English FW than the badly translated German content. Provided that the game is translated properly of course. --188.92.232.163 21:40, 14 January 2010 (CET)
- just recognized this discussion/talk thing is a mediawiki default setting .. it can also be found at wikipedia --Tiramon 17:45, 13 January 2010 (CET)
old stagers[edit]
I have seen that on the Main Page the article to the Link "old Stagers" does not exist... but in my talk i have seen in the welcome message that it is already existent, linked with Category:Constant_Authors i think this should be changed as soon as possible --Karill Endusa 17:40, 17 June 2010 (CEST)
Delusions of Grandeur ..[edit]
Hello ev´ryone,
I´ve just had the pleasure to fix DEnglisch completely re-create Project:Guidelines.
Thus I have to ask y´all the question:
Does it really make sense to aim for the skies, trying to C&P everything from our german counterpart, while not having enough manpower to translate everything?
Simply put, I would say: No.
This Wiki, as of now, is a complete catastrophe. There is so much work to be done, that I cannot even possibly say where to start, let alone estimate how long it´ll take to finish everything neatly. As of now, this wannabe-system is rather scaring away newcomers, so, additionally, we´re stuck in a vicious cycle, as we cannot possibly expect any reinforcements, unless we directly recruit them from somewhere, where people know that this thing´s a catastrophe, yet will try to improve it nonetheless.
TL;DR. Anyone who is still in here and working (even if only rarely), please, report in. Thanks. • FTLK, umadbro? 11:30, 21 January 2012 (CET)